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Joshp97
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USA
32 Posts

Posted - October 07 2003 :  15:31:16  Show Profile  Visit Joshp97's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Have any of you had trouble getting your vp-asp based site listed in the search engines with somewhat high rankings?
It seems to me googlebot and some others are having trouble following the catalog links.

Has anyone else seen this happening? Or better yet, are ay of you listed high in search results so I can take a look at your entry page.

Thanks,
Josh

http://www.HQgear.com
Online customization and ordering of Promotional Products!
Fast & Easy! Best Prices online!

searley
VP-ASP New User

169 Posts

Posted - October 10 2003 :  08:23:00  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I seem to do quite well with google, we get a lot of traffic from them!

www.inkcarts.co.uk

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Quality Printer Consumables
http://www.inkcarts.co.uk
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MannyM
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11 Posts

Posted - October 18 2003 :  17:31:18  Show Profile  Visit MannyM's Homepage  Reply with Quote
We do extremely well with all search engines.

http://www.3klix.com/
"everything for your computer in just 3 clicks"

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fireflyarts
Starting Member

USA
4 Posts

Posted - October 21 2003 :  17:36:59  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I could also use some help or *tips* on getting the search engines to see my site.
We've just recently brought our site up (still using 3.5) and I'm rather at a loss on how to get the search engines to see the site.
Does anyone have any tips and tricks on getting a site listed, manually submitting, entry page, etc.?
I'll also post on the board for *Offering Services* and see if I can find someone willing to assist/available for hire.....but thought I would also poster here in case someone had some info they would like to share!
All The Best -
Laura
http://www.FireFlyArts.com

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GTM
VP-ASP New User

USA
122 Posts

Posted - October 21 2003 :  19:06:42  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
You can use search submittal services some are ppc (pay per click) and some are a flat fee for your placement in the search engines. Here are some to check out.

http://www.inktomi.com/
http://www.content.overture.com/d/home/
http://www.bcentral.com/products/tb/default.asp

Greg

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Jill
VP-ASP Super User

USA
249 Posts

Posted - October 21 2003 :  19:39:17  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
On the subject of search engines....

Everyone says that most of the search engines won't follow a link after a "?", but what about this -

If you have an html index page of your products:

<link-with-a-?-in-it)Product title 1</a>
<link-with-a-?-in-it)Product title 2</a>
<link-with-a-?-in-it)Product title 3</a>

will the search engines continue to read the whole page, and just not follow the links? Or will it stop reading (and indexing!) at the first ?

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arte
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30 Posts

Posted - October 24 2003 :  16:04:02  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Some engines and directories will follow asp links and some will not.

However, remember that the two directories that over 80% of the english speaking world use (Google and Yahoo) are directories and as such use humans to review your site and its content.

It appears (as there are no hard and fast rules as SE's change their practices very quickly) that paid inclusion is the best way to good listings if you are in a broad and highly competitive market.

I sell art and by targeting my site at certain genres I have managed to achieve good rankings in some but not others.

Also research the SE's current standing before jumping in with paid inclusion as some engines feed others results.

I use WebPosition Gold: http://www.webposition.com/d2.pl?r=QNL-556B to critique my pages for specific SE's and for monitoring their ranking, (I'm an affiliate) but I do not do automatic submission as I believe manual is best and CONTENT rules.

Human reviewers give better ranking to sites with good content.

Hope this helps a little after babbling on!

ps I forgot to mention - focus on keywords in the right places and in the right amounts (WPG2 link above does this). It is a constant battle, not a submit and forget thing.



Edited by - arte on October 24 2003 16:06:45
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ole1kanobe
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9 Posts

Posted - November 28 2003 :  12:37:15  Show Profile  Visit ole1kanobe's Homepage  Reply with Quote
First off, most search engines these days will NOT index a dynamic page, which is what asp is mainly made up of. What you want to do is create a couple of standard html pages and put your keywords into them and submit those pages to search engines.

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arte
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30 Posts

Posted - November 30 2003 :  13:31:41  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Really? Do a search on "brazilian paintings" in Google and you will find artetrade.co.uk/index.ASP listed no.5 on worldwide list and no.1 on uk only listings!

ole1....When you say MOST SE's do NOT index asp pages, which SE's do you mean (of any importance eg Google, Yahoo)?

In my experience only the SE's with poor automation listing process exclude/miss asp pages. What is your view? I am always up for learning new/other SE practices.

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GTM
VP-ASP New User

USA
122 Posts

Posted - November 30 2003 :  19:45:51  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Here is a good article to read and solve some of your questions of dynamic pages. Hope this helps.

http://www.spider-food.net/dynamic-page-optimization.html

Greg

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Jill
VP-ASP Super User

USA
249 Posts

Posted - November 30 2003 :  19:52:14  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The kind of page I am wondering about would be a html page - an index page of products. It would link to my products with "?"s. The names of the products ARE my keywords, so even if the search engine doesn't follow the link, as long as it indexes the page itself, that would work.

So, would the search engine(s) just stop at the first ? and abandon the page completely, or would it just not follow the link, but would continue on down the page?

Jill



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