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Sharon
VP-CART Super User
357 Posts |
Posted - June 15 2010 : 08:53:04
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I have read the v7 User Manual but still don't really understand the differences/advantages of the dynamic over the static html generator.
Does anyone out there have the time to simplify this for me? I don't understand whether you need just one or can have both, and what the advantage of the dynamic one is.
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devshb
Senior Member
United Kingdom
1904 Posts |
Posted - June 15 2010 : 13:40:35
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We'll be creating loads of info pages about exactly this (and about browsable sitemaps) on our site over the next few days, and sending out a mailshot for people who are on our mail list. So if you sign up to our mail-list or keep an eye on our twitter feed then you'll get all the links/info when it's released, but for now, here's some basic info:
There are basically 3 types of search engine friendly page approaches:
1) Create static html files (eg "sony-tv-24-inch.htm") ie it creates a physical file with that name, where the info on that page is hard-coded and only changes when you regenerate the file (not when you change the data; you'd need to regenerate after each data change) This is what the "static html generator" does. The downside is that you need to regenerate each time you change the data, and also you can't show anything dynamic on the panels/pages (mini-cart etc).
2) Create static asp files (eg "sony-tv-24-inch.asp") ie it creates a physical file with that name, where the info on that page is dynamically loaded at browse time (not at file generation time), so you don't need to regenerate when you change the data. This is what the "seo dynamic generator" does.
3) Use URL rewriting to dynamically mask the real urls (eg you visit "mysite.com/shopexd.asp?id=100" and your server will make your browser/isp see that url in your address line as "mysite.com/sony-tv-24-inch/" it doesn't create a physical file; it fools your browser/isp into thinking that it's on a different url than it actually is. As far as I know (although I might be wrong), this isn't part of vpasp.
2 or 3 are the best ways to do it, but regardless of which way you use (1, 2, or 3) you'd need to make sure that if you're using static urls that you force the corresponding dynamic urls to be redirected in a search engine friendly way (301 redirects, or canonical tags) because google will penalise you if they see 2 different urls which essentially show the same thing (search engines like static urls, but they don't like duplicate pages)
Simon Barnaby Developer [email protected] www.BigYellowZone.com www.BigYellowKey.com Follow us on Twitter: http://twitter.com/bigyellowzone Web Design, Online Marketing and VPASP addons |
Edited by - devshb on June 15 2010 13:47:48 |
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Sharon
VP-CART Super User
357 Posts |
Posted - June 16 2010 : 07:30:42
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Thanks Simon, thats a great help to me. |
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support
Administrator
4679 Posts |
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Sharon
VP-CART Super User
357 Posts |
Posted - June 16 2010 : 11:46:39
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Thanks Cam. Is it worth getting the SEO Toolkit, installing it and putting it all in place on my test sub-domain before I go live or would you just consider this a waste of time and effort before the v7 site is moved to our main domain? |
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support
Administrator
4679 Posts |
Posted - June 23 2010 : 23:18:38
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Hi Sharon,
Sorry for taking a bit long to get back to you.
It is really up to you. If you want to test how it all works then you could integrate it into your development store now and when ready to go live just upload everything at once.
Or wait until the site is ready to go live and then apply just prior.
Hope my ambiguous answer helps a little bit.
Thank you.
Cam Flanigan VP-ASP Cart Support
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GMCDesign
Starting Member
USA
34 Posts |
Posted - July 23 2010 : 22:24:41
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I would assume even with the dynamic generator, you would still need to regenerate the files when a "new" product was added.
I'm also assuming there is a "switch" somewhere that tells the cart to use the generated files instead of the normal shopexd.asp type files.....?
Are these assumptions correct? |
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Mark Priest
VP-CART Expert
United Kingdom
580 Posts |
Posted - September 07 2010 : 11:36:50
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I have just bought the SEO pack and am very dissapointed to see that it's not dynamic at all. You stated above the it uses URL re-writing, but it doesn't really does it.
I want to have dynamic ISAPI re-write, I don't wan't to have to be re-creating directories everytime I modify, add or delete a product, this is where google get the hump with duplicates and incorrect pages.
True re-witing this doesn't happen, it's nigh on impossibe.
SO, does the add on do dynamic URL re-writes as advertised or not?
If not then can somone (simon) do it?
Regards,
Mark Fireworks |
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support
Administrator
4679 Posts |
Posted - September 07 2010 : 16:53:35
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Hi Mark,
Am on my mobile phone so I will probably miss some things but willl try to cover the main points.
Firstly we developed the SEO Toolkit so you do not have to use ISAPI anymore.
Most hosts do not allow the installation of 3rd party apps nor did the merchant wish to invest in the ISAPI app even if they could.
If you have ISAPI installed on your server then the following link may help:
http://helpnotes.vpasp.com/kb/601-Information/949-Setting-up-friendly-URL-on-VP-ASP-using-ISAPI_REWRITE/
This was created for version 650 however so no guarantees it will work.
Regarding the hiding or deletion of products we have set the module up now so that you do not have to delete the folders. In fact it is actually better if you don't.
Once a search engine has spidered your site you don't want them coming back later and not being able to find the page if you hide or delete a product.
So what we have done is add an automatic 301 redirection in the event you remove a product.
That way you do not get penalised for any page not found errors.
Hope this helps!
Thank you
Cam Flanigan VPASP Support
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nintendorepair
Starting Member
4 Posts |
Posted - September 13 2010 : 18:38:43
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Cam, does this mean we need to download the latest VPASP files to get this latest update, or was this aspect you described below already present in the original files?
quote: Originally posted by support
Hi Mark,
Am on my mobile phone so I will probably miss some things but willl try to cover the main points.
Firstly we developed the SEO Toolkit so you do not have to use ISAPI anymore.
Most hosts do not allow the installation of 3rd party apps nor did the merchant wish to invest in the ISAPI app even if they could.
If you have ISAPI installed on your server then the following link may help:
http://helpnotes.vpasp.com/kb/601-Information/949-Setting-up-friendly-URL-on-VP-ASP-using-ISAPI_REWRITE/
This was created for version 650 however so no guarantees it will work.
Regarding the hiding or deletion of products we have set the module up now so that you do not have to delete the folders. In fact it is actually better if you don't.
Once a search engine has spidered your site you don't want them coming back later and not being able to find the page if you hide or delete a product.
So what we have done is add an automatic 301 redirection in the event you remove a product.
That way you do not get penalised for any page not found errors.
Hope this helps!
Thank you
Cam Flanigan VPASP Support
Follow us on Twitter http://twitter.com/vpasp
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support
Administrator
4679 Posts |
Posted - September 13 2010 : 18:49:32
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Hi Brian,
This is an enhancement we have added recently after feedback from customers.
You should be able to download through the upgrade page for free.
Thank you
Cam Flanigan VPASP Support
Follow us on Twitter http://twitter.com/vpasp |
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Sharon
VP-CART Super User
357 Posts |
Posted - September 14 2010 : 04:42:46
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quote: Originally posted by support
Hi Brian,
This is an enhancement we have added recently after feedback from customers.
You should be able to download through the upgrade page for free.
Thank you
Cam Flanigan VPASP Support
Follow us on Twitter http://twitter.com/vpasp
Are you referring just to the automatic 301 redirection? I bought the SEO add-on in August.
I can't see anything on the upgrade page. |
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support
Administrator
4679 Posts |
Posted - September 15 2010 : 06:56:17
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Hi Sharon,
If you submit a ticket in the helpdesk I will check which version you have and send out latest if you do not have it.
Thank you
Cam Flanigan VPASP Support
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InkMagic
VP-CART New User
123 Posts |
Posted - September 29 2010 : 11:39:18
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Hello Cam:
How do you know if you are using the updated version with the 301 redirect? I just downloaded the lastest 'update'. When I open both shopa_generateseodynamic.asp or shopa_generateseodynamicsubs.asp both have a date of 1 Dec 2009.
Does this 301 redirect work if you change the name of the product or catagory also? I believe the subdirectory is based on the name of the product or catagory.
Thankyou!!
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Mark Priest
VP-CART Expert
United Kingdom
580 Posts |
Posted - June 09 2011 : 12:36:53
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I've installed the module on my test site and when I visit store/store/shopexd.asp?id=367 i get a 404 error? what am i missing
Regards,
Mark Fireworks |
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