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fecal_storm
Starting Member

14 Posts

Posted - March 30 2005 :  07:28:05  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
This thread is lame

Edited by - fecal_storm on March 31 2005 19:09:01

Sharon
VP-ASP Super User

353 Posts

Posted - March 30 2005 :  07:50:15  Show Profile  Visit Sharon's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Well I must be a rocket scientist then, despite having not started with html until last year & having zilch experience of VB.
I am getting where I want to with this software, OK with the help of some excellent support not only from the guys in Oz but also the forum. Looks & design are up to you. VPASP is about functionality.
Judging by your user name I know where you're coming from.

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bme
Starting Member

35 Posts

Posted - March 30 2005 :  09:32:13  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
True customization can be done. I was able to make the cart look, act, and feel exacly how I want it to. The only complaint I have is it seems, and I could be wrong, that they designed the functions and then added the html in. As a result, some of the code is in the wrong place or missing all together(that's why your buttons wouldn't center up Sharon.) If you know how to code, it is easily fixed. Personally, I would have built the html first, and then designed and inserted the functions in after. Plus, all the html is just standard html, as opposed to more strict xhtml, but thats my preference.

Bill

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apswater
VP-ASP Super User

317 Posts

Posted - March 30 2005 :  21:50:47  Show Profile  Visit apswater's Homepage  Reply with Quote
You know.. companies spend 100's of thousands of dollars for nice looking cart programs and support staff. VP-ASP is the cheapest and most adapatable program I have found. When I bought it, I didnt know any asp code and most of my html was done through mspublisher so needless to say it wasnt good. I could see the promise of the software since you get all the source code and went out and bought a book and figured it out. I have made many many modifications to the programing and can not be more happier. It isnt VP-ASP's fault that you dont know how to program or write simple html. In that case you need to hire your basic 7 year old to fix the look you want. If not, you need to spend some money on someone who knows what they are doing. The fact that you can modify it is the value. You wouldn't open a store without painting the place and setting up some shelves would you? The landlord is not responsible for your look because we all want it to look different. I am sure the guys at VP-ASP would be happy to change the look for you, but since they already have the software at a very cheap price and they give the most unbelivable tech service, then I am sure you wouldnt mind also paying for their time to cusomize it...of course you could always go get a yahoo or AOL crap store!

You only have to edit three html files to change the complete look. It is very easy.

Web Comerce sites are not for amatures. If you dont know what you are doing get help if not you will get hacked quick!



Edited by - apswater on March 30 2005 21:55:37
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Sharon
VP-ASP Super User

353 Posts

Posted - March 31 2005 :  00:05:19  Show Profile  Visit Sharon's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:

went out and bought a book and figured it out.


Can you recommend the book that helped you? Would appreciate your advice, I may be an amateur but will remain so only until I work it out.

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dcwebman
VP-ASP New User

USA
127 Posts

Posted - March 31 2005 :  06:47:33  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
There is no doubt that the default look that comes with the program could be better looking. But that can always be changed fairly easily. I have used two shopping carts in the past. The first was Storefront years ago and it was at a time I was starting to learn ASP coding so found it very difficult to do anything with but I did finish the website. The one last year was Miva Merchant and if you want customization, forget that unless you're willing to keep spending money on new modules. If I want to change a couple words on a page, I shouldn't have to buy a module to let me do that.

That's when I decided that the next site I was going to create was going to use a different shopping cart and started my search ending in VP-ASP. The client wanted to get it up and running fast so since I'm not the greatest in graphic design, I opted for one of the templates at http://www.website-flash-templates.com/ especially since I had to buy VP-ASP too. This got a decent looking site and then my customizations started. When it came time to change a word or look on a page, it does take a little effort to do some searching for functions and such but it isn't very difficult. The point is that you can actually make a change. That's the big thing going for VP-ASP, along with all its functionality and as mentioned, the fantastic technical support.

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apswater
VP-ASP Super User

317 Posts

Posted - March 31 2005 :  09:30:05  Show Profile  Visit apswater's Homepage  Reply with Quote
it is called "begining asp 3.0" and it will give you pretty much everything you need to start understanding the coding. http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0764543636/002-3534458-8347225?v=glance.
and here http://www.aspwebpro.com/tutorials/asp/dbconnectionopen.asp
and here http://www.w3schools.com/asp/asp_incfiles.asp and here http://216.147.98.109/support_asp.html

I also use many online html help sites including :
http://archive.ncsa.uiuc.edu/General/Internet/WWW/HTMLPrimerAll.html

I also grab snippits form http://www.scripts.com/asp-scripts/database-tools/counting-records-wizard

Hope it helps




Edited by - apswater on March 31 2005 09:30:34

Edited by - apswater on March 31 2005 09:31:39
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apswater
VP-ASP Super User

317 Posts

Posted - March 31 2005 :  16:32:44  Show Profile  Visit apswater's Homepage  Reply with Quote
my site is posted all over the place here... try http://www.homewaterdepot.com

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apswater
VP-ASP Super User

317 Posts

Posted - March 31 2005 :  21:18:34  Show Profile  Visit apswater's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Anyone who has been coding for 7 years should know better. You complain about vp-asp but it is what you seleced after trying the others. I am sure having a cart just like you want should be worth more then the cheap price of VP-ASP. Why not contact the boys and ask then for a quote to make it the way you want... I didnt have much problem making the cart just as I need it to be...and I really am an amature. yes it is not exactly pretty but when you try to present 1000's of specialized products, you have a difficult task if you dont want all you product so hidden no one can find them. For instance our clients dont know the name of what the need, they just know they need something.. this is something a search engine is not very good for. The category and sub-category structure system gave us just what we needed to guide people towards what they are looking for. I have found nothing else like it. We actually wanted to find the cart Walmart uses and vp-asp came close to the functional model. Most other carts either dont want you to modify them, of you have to advertise for them with a link or they have no documentation.. (I found the remark notes in the code are adaquate and with a decent search/editor you can easily find the snipits you need to modify.) You might want to try notetab light http://www.notetab.com .I used this a lot, it has a big advantage that you can load all the asp pages and html for that matter at the same time and then you can search or search and replace all of the pages at once. When you load documents just hold down the control key and select all the docs you want to load in. This saved me a ton of time converting the old website cart static tags to vp-asp flawlessly. It also has a pretty extensive html editor built in and other cool things and best of all it is free. It isnt "what you see is that you get" but you can use explorer as the preview screen. (I also use dual monitors and if you aren't you are really missing out on making your life easier). There are a bunch of nice and helpfull people here... you should at least show some respect and change that handle. You will find all the free help here you would need. Except if you are juvenial that is!

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dcwebman
VP-ASP New User

USA
127 Posts

Posted - April 01 2005 :  06:41:32  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Well I guess it turns out we're all lame for trying to help new users.

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fecal_storm
Starting Member

14 Posts

Posted - April 01 2005 :  10:23:13  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Not at all. I was tired of people taking constructive criticism as a personal affront. I appreciate anyone who attempted to be helpful without attempting to be insulting.

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fecal_storm
Starting Member

14 Posts

Posted - April 01 2005 :  10:34:37  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:

There are a bunch of nice and helpfull people here... you should at least show some respect and change that handle. You will find all the free help here you would need. Except if you are juvenial that is!



Seriously, you are an idiot. I apologize if I have offended your delicate sensibilities with a little bit of immature toilet humor. Boy I sure am disrespectful aren't I? Wait...to whom or what am I being disrespectful? Have I offended storms or fecal matter? So I guess in reality I don't apologize because at the end of the day, you are a moron and don't merit the energy required. Frankly, I am disappointed in myself for even responding to this thread again but what can I say, I am addicted to berating fools.

Finally, don't call me juvenile if you're unable to spell the word correctly. It makes you look like more of an idiot than you already are.


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apswater
VP-ASP Super User

317 Posts

Posted - April 01 2005 :  13:38:08  Show Profile  Visit apswater's Homepage  Reply with Quote
We are all the idiots but you cant edit a simple file. Your posts stand for themselves. You handle speaks volumes. enough said. Go back to yahoo cart since it is more your speed.

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devshb
Senior Member

United Kingdom
1898 Posts

Posted - April 01 2005 :  14:04:21  Show Profile  Visit devshb's Homepage  Reply with Quote
if anyone's after asp syntax help etc, this is the most useful link on the planet....

http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/script56/html/vbscripttoc.asp


and here's one for how to use all the ascii codes for special characters etc....


http://www.lookuptables.com/


and here's one for sqlserver:

http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/dnanchor/html/sqlserver.asp


and here's one for mysql:
http://dev.mysql.com/doc/mysql/en/index.html


add them to your favourites; they're very useful indeed!

Simon Barnaby
Developer
[email protected]
www.BigYellowZone.com
Web Design, Online Marketing and VPASP addons
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support
Administrator

4266 Posts

Posted - April 01 2005 :  15:27:59  Show Profile  Visit support's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Thanks Simon,

I think this is time to close off this thread now thanks everyone and let tempers cool a bit.

If we can keep the tone of all posts reasonable though that will make this forum a much more pleasant place to ask for help.

While the VPASP Shopping Cart is one of the most powerful and customisable solutions available it is not for everyone.

We all appreciate the great work provided by our customers to each other to help out with any curly problems found in setting up your site.

If you do have a problem with the cart or with any of the features please post a support ticket at our help desk if you can't find an answer on the forum. We try to assist with all queries where possible even if they do fall out of the free support charter.

Thanks all again for your input.

Thank you.
VPASP Support

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