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Sharon
VP-ASP Super User

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Posted - June 15 2010 :  08:53:04  Show Profile  Visit Sharon's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I have read the v7 User Manual but still don't really understand the differences/advantages of the dynamic over the static html generator.

Does anyone out there have the time to simplify this for me? I don't understand whether you need just one or can have both, and what the advantage of the dynamic one is.

Sorry to be so thick.

devshb
Senior Member

United Kingdom
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Posted - June 15 2010 :  13:40:35  Show Profile  Visit devshb's Homepage  Reply with Quote
We'll be creating loads of info pages about exactly this (and about browsable sitemaps) on our site over the next few days, and sending out a mailshot for people who are on our mail list. So if you sign up to our mail-list or keep an eye on our twitter feed then you'll get all the links/info when it's released, but for now, here's some basic info:

There are basically 3 types of search engine friendly page approaches:

1) Create static html files
(eg "sony-tv-24-inch.htm")
ie it creates a physical file with that name, where the info on that page is hard-coded and only changes when you regenerate the file (not when you change the data; you'd need to regenerate after each data change)
This is what the "static html generator" does.
The downside is that you need to regenerate each time you change the data, and also you can't show anything dynamic on the panels/pages (mini-cart etc).

2) Create static asp files
(eg "sony-tv-24-inch.asp")
ie it creates a physical file with that name, where the info on that page is dynamically loaded at browse time (not at file generation time), so you don't need to regenerate when you change the data.
This is what the "seo dynamic generator" does.

3) Use URL rewriting to dynamically mask the real urls
(eg you visit "mysite.com/shopexd.asp?id=100" and your server will make your browser/isp see that url in your address line as "mysite.com/sony-tv-24-inch/"
it doesn't create a physical file; it fools your browser/isp into thinking that it's on a different url than it actually is.
As far as I know (although I might be wrong), this isn't part of vpasp.

2 or 3 are the best ways to do it, but regardless of which way you use (1, 2, or 3) you'd need to make sure that if you're using static urls that you force the corresponding dynamic urls to be redirected in a search engine friendly way (301 redirects, or canonical tags) because google will penalise you if they see 2 different urls which essentially show the same thing (search engines like static urls, but they don't like duplicate pages)

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Edited by - devshb on June 15 2010 13:47:48
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Sharon
VP-ASP Super User

353 Posts

Posted - June 16 2010 :  07:30:42  Show Profile  Visit Sharon's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Thanks Simon, thats a great help to me.
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support
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Posted - June 16 2010 :  11:26:48  Show Profile  Visit support's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Hi Simon

The Deluxe Pac actually has the URL rewriting feature built in now.

To see an example please go to:

http://www.vpasp.com/demo700/products/1-Office/1-Computer-Desk/

The old URL for this was:

http://www.vpasp.com/demo700/shopexd.asp?id=1

We also have the SEO ToolKit available as an addon module for all of the packages as well:

http://www.vpasp.com/virtprog/seotoolkit.htm

Hope this helps.

Thank you.

Cam Flanigan
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Sharon
VP-ASP Super User

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Posted - June 16 2010 :  11:46:39  Show Profile  Visit Sharon's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Thanks Cam. Is it worth getting the SEO Toolkit, installing it and putting it all in place on my test sub-domain before I go live or would you just consider this a waste of time and effort before the v7 site is moved to our main domain?
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support
Administrator

4266 Posts

Posted - June 23 2010 :  23:18:38  Show Profile  Visit support's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Hi Sharon,

Sorry for taking a bit long to get back to you.

It is really up to you. If you want to test how it all works then you could integrate it into your development store now and when ready to go live just upload everything at once.

Or wait until the site is ready to go live and then apply just prior.

Hope my ambiguous answer helps a little bit.

Thank you.

Cam Flanigan
VP-ASP Cart Support

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GMCDesign
Starting Member

USA
34 Posts

Posted - July 23 2010 :  22:24:41  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I would assume even with the dynamic generator, you would still need to regenerate the files when a "new" product was added.

I'm also assuming there is a "switch" somewhere that tells the cart to use the generated files instead of the normal shopexd.asp type files.....?

Are these assumptions correct?
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Mark Priest
VP-ASP Expert

United Kingdom
570 Posts

Posted - September 07 2010 :  11:36:50  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I have just bought the SEO pack and am very dissapointed to see that it's not dynamic at all. You stated above the it uses URL re-writing, but it doesn't really does it.

I want to have dynamic ISAPI re-write, I don't wan't to have to be re-creating directories everytime I modify, add or delete a product, this is where google get the hump with duplicates and incorrect pages.

True re-witing this doesn't happen, it's nigh on impossibe.

SO, does the add on do dynamic URL re-writes as advertised or not?

If not then can somone (simon) do it?



Regards,

Mark
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support
Administrator

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Posted - September 07 2010 :  16:53:35  Show Profile  Visit support's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Hi Mark,

Am on my mobile phone so I will probably miss some things but willl try to cover the main points.

Firstly we developed the SEO Toolkit so you do not have to use ISAPI anymore.

Most hosts do not allow the installation of 3rd party apps nor did the merchant wish to invest in the ISAPI app even if they could.

If you have ISAPI installed on your server then the following link may help:

http://helpnotes.vpasp.com/kb/601-Information/949-Setting-up-friendly-URL-on-VP-ASP-using-ISAPI_REWRITE/

This was created for version 650 however so no guarantees it will work.

Regarding the hiding or deletion of products we have set the module up now so that you do not have to delete the folders. In fact it is actually better if you don't.

Once a search engine has spidered your site you don't want them coming back later and not being able to find the page if you hide or delete a product.

So what we have done is add an automatic 301 redirection in the event you remove a product.

That way you do not get penalised for any page not found errors.

Hope this helps!

Thank you

Cam Flanigan
VPASP Support

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nintendorepair
Starting Member

4 Posts

Posted - September 13 2010 :  18:38:43  Show Profile  Visit nintendorepair's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Cam, does this mean we need to download the latest VPASP files to get this latest update, or was this aspect you described below already present in the original files?

quote:
Originally posted by support

Hi Mark,

Am on my mobile phone so I will probably miss some things but willl try to cover the main points.

Firstly we developed the SEO Toolkit so you do not have to use ISAPI anymore.

Most hosts do not allow the installation of 3rd party apps nor did the merchant wish to invest in the ISAPI app even if they could.

If you have ISAPI installed on your server then the following link may help:

http://helpnotes.vpasp.com/kb/601-Information/949-Setting-up-friendly-URL-on-VP-ASP-using-ISAPI_REWRITE/

This was created for version 650 however so no guarantees it will work.

Regarding the hiding or deletion of products we have set the module up now so that you do not have to delete the folders. In fact it is actually better if you don't.

Once a search engine has spidered your site you don't want them coming back later and not being able to find the page if you hide or delete a product.

So what we have done is add an automatic 301 redirection in the event you remove a product.

That way you do not get penalised for any page not found errors.

Hope this helps!

Thank you

Cam Flanigan
VPASP Support

Follow us on Twitter
http://twitter.com/vpasp

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support
Administrator

4266 Posts

Posted - September 13 2010 :  18:49:32  Show Profile  Visit support's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Hi Brian,

This is an enhancement we have added recently after feedback from customers.

You should be able to download through the upgrade page for free.

Thank you

Cam Flanigan
VPASP Support

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Sharon
VP-ASP Super User

353 Posts

Posted - September 14 2010 :  04:42:46  Show Profile  Visit Sharon's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by support

Hi Brian,

This is an enhancement we have added recently after feedback from customers.

You should be able to download through the upgrade page for free.

Thank you

Cam Flanigan
VPASP Support

Follow us on Twitter
http://twitter.com/vpasp



Are you referring just to the automatic 301 redirection? I bought the SEO add-on in August.

I can't see anything on the upgrade page.
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support
Administrator

4266 Posts

Posted - September 15 2010 :  06:56:17  Show Profile  Visit support's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Hi Sharon,

If you submit a ticket in the helpdesk I will check which version you have and send out latest if you do not have it.


Thank you

Cam Flanigan
VPASP Support

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InkMagic
VP-ASP New User

107 Posts

Posted - September 29 2010 :  11:39:18  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hello Cam:

How do you know if you are using the updated version with the 301 redirect? I just downloaded the lastest 'update'. When I open both shopa_generateseodynamic.asp or shopa_generateseodynamicsubs.asp both have a date of 1 Dec 2009.

Does this 301 redirect work if you change the name of the product or catagory also? I believe the subdirectory is based on the name of the product or catagory.

Thankyou!!

Dale
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Mark Priest
VP-ASP Expert

United Kingdom
570 Posts

Posted - June 09 2011 :  12:36:53  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I've installed the module on my test site and when I visit store/store/shopexd.asp?id=367 i get a 404 error? what am i missing

Regards,

Mark
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